| 3d inmersive et la ergonomie (GUIs, Directories, Displays) | |
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peter le cochon +1000
Number of posts : 1032 Localisation : deutschland (sniff) Registration date : 2005-05-28
| Subject: 3d inmersive et la ergonomie (GUIs, Directories, Displays) Sat 16 Jul - 21:28 | |
| Hello ... this space is - may be - for Raging Storm : If you think about 3d-directories you automatically think about Raging Storm He is working hard since ever ago on several ways to display links to worlds ... artwork ... and any thing to be clicked at ... It's not just modelling and vrml scripting ... i guess Raging's main work (and the mostly unseen part) is the server side scripting, for dynamically generating the anchors or so ... he will tell us for sure just let Isa1 (mon fleur des primtemps... kidnapped by the ugly Oxbow ...) convince him. But at the same time, I want to place here one question to the community that is driving me mad since ages and could be somehow related : Making an almost decent html document with interactive content, changing it's aspect while clicking-arround, with some nice visual effects etc. ... and making it work on several different browsers (M$IE... Mozilla...) is a brainblasting work, sometimes just impossible Now let's think about "perverting" - pardon Anne - vrml for doing above mentioned work : It would be pretty easy ... letting stuff get transparent while clicking at it ... morphing some parts of the document ... funny transitions ... why nobody uses vrml for his html documents ? You could forgett about styles (and style-shits) and all related, about layers, id's etc ... One problem for doing so is the limitation of text display : text nodes come up with hard work for the renderer (internally vrml text is a lineSet or even a faceSet) and don't look very nice... converting the full text into a texture is not a way (heavy, static, not nice) ... I have read about some approaches trying (or succeeding) to use one texture per font and character set (all characters at one texture) and you just map the character you want to use upon one surface ... must be easy to implement, don't know how many ressources it takes, if it works fine. Does anybody know an example for this approach ? I don't want to reinvent the wheel (my speciality). Next problem : Once you use vrml for creating your web-page you will try to go as much 3D and immersive as possible ... the result will be a world instead of a page ... I have seen real vrml labyrinths trying to be usefull for showing pictures. I really prefer a flat Photo-Album ... no need for Ariadne there. I guess Raging has thaught a lot about this... he is the master of 3d-directories - and I see he has choosen a circular display for his actual galleries/directories ... that's not a banal decision, sure. Raging : Tell me the secrets you have found out about the ergonomy of diplays, please... so we will not make the same mistakes another one made long ago... Well, anybody is interested on working out this confusing idea? Bissoux | |
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jicer +1000
Number of posts : 1808 Localisation : france Registration date : 2005-07-10
| Subject: jicer Sat 16 Jul - 22:39 | |
| Labyrinthe images, immersion et dynamique. http://jacinto.costoso.free.fr/1995b.html ya te lo commentare... _____ Des caracteres "case" bitmap pour mapper dans les mondes 3D vrml. Es possible que los programmas des modelisations han evoluado, y es possible pero no estoy seguro, tengo que verificarlo con maya, creo que si desde la version 5 del dicho programma hacer eso de pegar varias texturas en una geometria. Ademas que el problema que hoy los tienes resuelto en vrml ..pues la ergonomia de os ordenadore de hoy creo que lo permiten.. ocea seria de hacer una geometria basica como un cadrado y pegar en el el textura de tu lettra?y hacer con el alfabeto? Veo la idea muy clara y seguramente antigua pregunta , que hoy en dia con las machinas de hoy debe resultar facil.. hay que probar y hacer ensayos? peros porque no lo ensayas? o no e comprendido la traducion de google? | |
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peter le cochon +1000
Number of posts : 1032 Localisation : deutschland (sniff) Registration date : 2005-05-28
| Subject: Re: 3d inmersive et la ergonomie (GUIs, Directories, Displays) Sat 16 Jul - 23:59 | |
| ... jaja .. jacinto : tu me envías una galería en forma de laberinto para mac, como para subrayar lo que yo decía y en la mísma página descubro otra de tus genialidades (me refiero al corto del tren pasando). Que gozada haberte conocido !!! ... si, me pondré con lo del texto... es una tarea apta para alemanes cabeza-cuadradas ... pero mi mensaje implíca tareas sesudas sobre como utilizar la 3d inmersiva para visualizar y organizar contenidos gráficos ... no como laberinto sino mas bien al contrario (es decir : pregunta --> que es lo contarrio a un laberinto pero puede ser considerado 3d ? ... una esfera ? un poliedro ? un cuerpo de mujer ? ...) esa es tu parte. Trato hecho. | |
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jicer +1000
Number of posts : 1808 Localisation : france Registration date : 2005-07-10
| Subject: Re: 3d inmersive et la ergonomie (GUIs, Directories, Displays) Sun 17 Jul - 2:23 | |
| peter, gracias por toda tu gentileza , que me vas al corazon,
Lo del tren, comprendiste todo el proyecto ? | |
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peter le cochon +1000
Number of posts : 1032 Localisation : deutschland (sniff) Registration date : 2005-05-28
| Subject: Re: 3d inmersive et la ergonomie (GUIs, Directories, Displays) Sun 17 Jul - 2:55 | |
| - jicer wrote:
- Lo del tren, comprendiste todo el proyecto ?
... no, hasta que lo leí ... Extraña simbiosis entre los hermanos lumiere y el tren de alta velocidad genial otra vez No salió adelante ? P.D.: Que carajo!!! Ese projecto hay que ralizarlo, aunque sea en vrml | |
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hermetic 10/20
Number of posts : 46 Registration date : 2005-05-14
| Subject: Re: 3d inmersive et la ergonomie (GUIs, Directories, Displays) Sun 17 Jul - 12:21 | |
| ! this is a very interesting thema. Sadly if you only speak french or spain here, I cant read %( translations? It's an old dream of me (and not only me) to surf the web not in 2d with 'active' content included, but in 3d with included 2d. While the most stuff is 2d (html) a 3d-browser that can display 2d sites inside would be great. there are some trys about: VOS.org 'cristalzilla' and http://www.spatialknowledge.com/projects/clara/ http://www.cyworx.com/viewtopic.php?t=5&sid=8 | |
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peter le cochon +1000
Number of posts : 1032 Localisation : deutschland (sniff) Registration date : 2005-05-28
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jicer +1000
Number of posts : 1808 Localisation : france Registration date : 2005-07-10
| Subject: jicer Sun 17 Jul - 16:09 | |
| que te parece, si habro un tema en el forO sobre el train? that it seems to you, if I open a subject in the forum on "train"? | |
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jicer +1000
Number of posts : 1808 Localisation : france Registration date : 2005-07-10
| Subject: jicer Sun 17 Jul - 16:29 | |
| http://www.hypegallery.com/flash.php
clic la sphere central in wireframe... and clic next to go virtual gallery .. no clic botton on direcion just survol . | |
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peter le cochon +1000
Number of posts : 1032 Localisation : deutschland (sniff) Registration date : 2005-05-28
| Subject: Re: 3d inmersive et la ergonomie (GUIs, Directories, Displays) Sun 17 Jul - 16:48 | |
| Jicer a ecrit : - Quote :
que te parece, si habro un tema en el forO sobre el train? that it seems to you, if I open a subject in the forum on "train"?
responde : - C'est une bonne idee - It's a good idea - Es una buena idea - Das ist eine gute idee - oink grrgh mhpff [/quote] | |
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jicer +1000
Number of posts : 1808 Localisation : france Registration date : 2005-07-10
| Subject: jicer Sun 31 Jul - 21:21 | |
| al final no te pongoo el texto sobre el estudio que hice cuando era joven, pues no tiene frand cosa que ver con tu proyecto. hay hay
aqui estoy buen viaje jacinto | |
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peter le cochon +1000
Number of posts : 1032 Localisation : deutschland (sniff) Registration date : 2005-05-28
| Subject: Re: 3d inmersive et la ergonomie (GUIs, Directories, Displays) Sun 2 Jul - 2:34 | |
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alain fondateur
Number of posts : 23529 Localisation : Dompierre sur Veyle ,France Registration date : 2005-04-19
| Subject: Re: 3d inmersive et la ergonomie (GUIs, Directories, Displays) Sun 2 Jul - 11:39 | |
| Peter , the tshirt will find the user , I am ready to post it | |
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peter le cochon +1000
Number of posts : 1032 Localisation : deutschland (sniff) Registration date : 2005-05-28
| Subject: Re: 3d inmersive et la ergonomie (GUIs, Directories, Displays) Sun 2 Jul - 23:21 | |
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isa +2000
Number of posts : 7076 Localisation : INDRE ET LOIRE Registration date : 2005-04-19
| Subject: Re: 3d inmersive et la ergonomie (GUIs, Directories, Displays) Mon 3 Jul - 7:21 | |
| Bisouxx Peter ... good day , i go now to work isa | |
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fabricator +200
Number of posts : 227 Localisation : Australia Registration date : 2005-08-28
| Subject: Re: 3d inmersive et la ergonomie (GUIs, Directories, Displays) Wed 25 Oct - 12:30 | |
| Well as far as making a usable 3d image gallery, I'm not game to mess with that concept. Someone else do it This game has text created using textures, Roland was suppost to release the PROTO involved as public domain, only he never got around to it www.smeenk.com\vrml\dragonstone\dragonstone.wrlAnyway what you want is the RSP_BitmapText proto, its usages and the various textures involved. ie: this texture: www.smeenk.com\vrml\dragonstone\images\dragontext.png ps: watch out as Roland Smeenk put it: "Some technical highlights ..... awkward third person navigation" in other word the navigation is | |
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alain fondateur
Number of posts : 23529 Localisation : Dompierre sur Veyle ,France Registration date : 2005-04-19
| Subject: Re: 3d inmersive et la ergonomie (GUIs, Directories, Displays) Wed 25 Oct - 13:34 | |
| LOL I spent hours , years ago , trying to understant sometning in all these scripts !!
it made me ( more ) mad LOL
btw , it seems it works with
http://www.smeenk.com/vrml/dragonstone/images/titletext.png
like here :
http://dumenieu.free.fr/louiseforum/dragonstonetext.wrl | |
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peter le cochon +1000
Number of posts : 1032 Localisation : deutschland (sniff) Registration date : 2005-05-28
| Subject: Re: 3d inmersive et la ergonomie (GUIs, Directories, Displays) Fri 27 Oct - 0:58 | |
| Hey, thank's both, guys I'll say in advance : Unlike most of my postings on forums, which are mainly made for "making waves", I did place this thread here because I love the topic (GUIs, Directories and Displays). So, Fab, thank's for posting about Smeenk's proto here. I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THAT SAMPLE SOOO LONG !!!!- and also thank's for the "VRMLized Google Image Search Page", which is on another thread, but I did enjoy it as if it would have been posted here on this one (I'm just still missing Erik's - Raging Storm's - point of view/ViewPoint). And merci beaucop Alain for the sample ... IT WORKS TRES BIEN !!! You're a techie-art-teacher or an artistic-tech-theacher !!! BTW : Isn't it getting time for organizing Louise Meeting 2007 ??? (I need a new T-Shirt). Cheers to all Peter | |
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jacinto +1000
Number of posts : 1177 Registration date : 2006-02-21
| Subject: Re: 3d inmersive et la ergonomie (GUIs, Directories, Displays) Sun 26 Nov - 1:16 | |
| eres un genio Peter !! (la ultima imagen de esta pagina) el futuro systema de gindos http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/features/default.mspx | |
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peter le cochon +1000
Number of posts : 1032 Localisation : deutschland (sniff) Registration date : 2005-05-28
| Subject: Re: 3d inmersive et la ergonomie (GUIs, Directories, Displays) Mon 22 Jan - 1:19 | |
| Tu si que eres un genio.
A ver que te parece esto :
http://www.xpell.com/content/index_1.html
Detesto las páginas basadas en mucho flash, pero esta es espectacular.Hi people,
I hate flash based webdesign, but this one is just spectacular.
http://www.xpell.com/content/index_1.htmlSaludos, Peter | |
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jacinto +1000
Number of posts : 1177 Registration date : 2006-02-21
| Subject: Re: 3d inmersive et la ergonomie (GUIs, Directories, Displays) Mon 22 Jan - 12:38 | |
| despues de haber visto el flash que te parece un trozo de queso frances ? fromage(vrml) -- after having seen the flash, which thinks you of a piece of French cheese ? fromage(vrml) -- après avoir vu le flash, que pense tu d'un morceau de fromage français ? fromage(vrml) flash del candil de ALadin aunque no tuve que limpiar la pantalla para que salga el genio | |
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jacinto +1000
Number of posts : 1177 Registration date : 2006-02-21
| Subject: Re: 3d inmersive et la ergonomie (GUIs, Directories, Displays) Mon 22 Jan - 23:32 | |
| ya que estoy lanzado... despues del queso , nos podremos preocupar del regimen : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTBh_Lx3Y3E&NR aunque no lo seguiria. (soory alain for this not private mail) | |
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