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PostSubject: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Thu 26 Jan - 9:00

http://www.vrmlworlds.com/games/waterslide/world_chat.wrl

This is the chat mentioned in the thread "voici un fait nouveau : BLAXX DOWN , dec 2005" but now upgraded to use avatars as well.

ps: Yes I know I broke the chatters list again.
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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Thu 26 Jan - 10:19

wow ! nice to you to tell that , fabricator !

very great news ! very great work ( I guess ! I can't figure how you write all that lol )

indeed it seems working but everyone was sleeping at that hour Smile


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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Thu 26 Jan - 10:26

oups I forgot to "test" it with my avatar , will do later , I see your title just now ....

I wrote that in the

"blaxxun down topic" :
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recent great news from fabricator !
http://closed.forumactif.com/viewtopic.forum?t=969

because I know ppl are vey lost in that board lol

Indeed Dwd accepted to come here recently , and yesterday I found a nice frenchie who will come too a-ko ....

Thanx to not forget us , fabricator ...

And ...humm....say hello from me to Anastasia if you "see" her , I hope we will see her on blaxx again soon ....

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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Thu 26 Jan - 18:29

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wow ! nice to you to tell that , fabricator !


Perhaps you should have taken a screen shot with some of the avatars in view ? The code isn't complete yet as it doesn't remove avatars when needed.

ps: the function which allows people to use their own avatar isn't enabled yet. Its something I have to work on some more.
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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Thu 26 Jan - 18:38

alain wrote:
oups I forgot to "test" it with my avatar , will do later , I see your title just now ....

I wrote that in the

Indeed Dwd accepted to come here recently , and yesterday I found a nice frenchie who will come too a-ko ....

Thanx to not forget us , fabricator ...

And ...humm....say hello from me to Anastasia if you "see" her , I hope we will see her on blaxx again soon ....

I haven't seen Anastasia recently, she has some RL problems to deal with. Not sure what she is doing at the moment.


As for how complex my chat code is.... well simple is theory, and thusly to use. But really complicated in reality. I still have to work on the multi chat part, basically is just a case of creating directories and files on the server, when ever a new world is created.

I'm going to have a go at writing a bot into the chat system also. Maybe just an avatar rigged to stay in 3d forever.
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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Thu 26 Jan - 22:53

I organized a meeting lol





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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Thu 26 Jan - 23:09

I will write the problems we had .....it seems that something is always refreshing Sad

But indeed you are a hero Smile

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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Sat 28 Jan - 8:33

I think Alain is missing something Laughing

Try cleaning your IE cache.

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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Sat 28 Jan - 10:15

Ok I gave up trying to get others to figure out the correct keyboard mapping for my chat sytem to work in french/german/spanish. Google was useless as per normal Sad

Anyway I'm using Windows XP ability to have a choice of keyboard mappings. I've fixed most of the problems but some remain.

Firstly where is the darn @ symbol on the french keyboard ? I can't figure it out, the ALT + numberpad codes don't work for my chat btw.

Secondly anyone know how the agrave key fits into all this ? Its that key to the right of the P on the french keyboard, I vaguely remember it creates certain special characters in combination with other keys.


Here is the transpostion from EN keyboard to FR keyboard. Let me know if I missed any differences.


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/?    ->    !§
,<    ->    ;.
.>    ->    :/
;:    ->    mM
' "    ->    ù%
[{    ->    <agrave key>
]}    ->    $£
1!    ->    &1
2@  ->    é2
3#    ->    "3
4$    ->    '4
5%  ->    (5
6^    ->    -6
7&    ->    è7
8*    ->    _8
9(    ->    ç9
0)    ->    à0
-_    ->      )°
mM  ->      ,?
`~    ->      ²
\|    ->      *µ
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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Tue 31 Jan - 2:33

I just begin ,

about the " @ "

I will come later :

http://www.informanews.net/tests/Clavier_KeySonic_ACK-610EL/img/claviereteint.jpg

after 1 , 2 , 3 ect ...
comes the 0 , and here is too the "à" and the "@" ,
made with Altgr + that '0' ......so....@

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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Wed 1 Feb - 14:15

Ah now I know why I didn't find that function. The US keyboard has two alt keys, and both work the same, there is no ALT group key. I didn't even try both ALT keys Embarassed

Having tried to type code with the french keyboard active I can say it sure does have alot of differences. Annoy people by changing their french keyboard to english or visa versa, then watch them try to type a letter. Twisted Evil

Anyway back to writing lots of IF statements like:
if (language!='FR') if (value==65) temp = 'A';
if (language=='FR') if (value==81) temp = 'A';

Why on earth don't the keyboard nodes produce the actual ASCII codes intead of keyboard codes which different from one language to another.

I've got to go annoy hermetic to find out where the @ symbol is on the german keyboard.
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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Wed 1 Feb - 14:44

one of the reasons it was hard to have seamless working easily here , is that keyboard prob ...
I had always the project to use seamless3d because I adoooooooooore Thyme , lol , and second because seamless3d is very original , but the US/french keyboard problem is ...a problem to use seamless3d ...

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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Thu 2 Feb - 8:43

http://www.vrmlworlds.com/games/waterslide/world_chat.wrl

The current version of this supports multiple languages, well english french and german. Just remember to click the correct flag for your language from the icons below the chat input box.

The neat part is unlike windows it doesn't care if you change language at any time. Handy for when your country's keyboard is missing some wierd character etc. Wink

There may be a bug in the mapping somewhere, it was getting hard to keep the hundreds of lines of if statements under control Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Thu 2 Feb - 17:12

well I went to try the flags , sure there is a difference by clicking on english then french , but they are not always the right letters. ...

Will re check later , but I must say that first :

I said days ago that your chat seemed to wait for downloading something and seemed to be "refreshing" each second , so today I went to look at what it was trying to dl :
http://www.vrmlworlds.com/massiveworld/users/1/avatars/longcloak1.wrl

The avatar !!!
Indeed I checked my InternetTemporaryfiles , and the file was in !
But never in the world ...
I had the idea to chack all that on another puter with XP , ( I have millenium ) and it is the same ....

Humm just to inform you ...

Thanx for all ....

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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Thu 2 Feb - 18:38

alain wrote:
well I went to try the flags , sure there is a difference by clicking on english then french , but they are not always the right letters. ...

Will re check later , but I must say that first :

I said days ago that your chat seemed to wait for downloading something and seemed to be "refreshing" each second , so today I went to look at what it was trying to dl :
http://www.vrmlworlds.com/massiveworld/users/1/avatars/longcloak1.wrl

The avatar !!!
Indeed I checked my InternetTemporaryfiles , and the file was in !
But never in the world ...
I had the idea to chack all that on another puter with XP , ( I have millenium ) and it is the same ....

Humm just to inform you ...

Thanx for all ....

Ah yes I realized today that the code just isn't right. I've already worked out how to fix it.

It should get the data from the server then create a new avatar if needed. At the moment it uses the avatar driver proto directly, which means a new avatar node each time etc.

This explains the 1 meg per second memory leaks affraid


Oh and give me some clues as to which keys aren't mapped properly. Or maybe its just that the characters aren't correct.
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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Thu 2 Feb - 19:34

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Oh and give me some clues as to which keys aren't mapped properly. Or maybe its just that the characters aren't correct.

yes yes I don't forget , I do know that I have that too to do , but ......we , teachers , are very busy today : we are all on strike ! Smile

When I was saying that to swaffette , an it was 2 or 3 times each year , she was always saying : " I had never been on strike " , hihih dear swafette Smile

Now I check the avatardata ....

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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Thu 2 Feb - 19:46

hummmmm I have the avatardata in my cache , also longcloak , and another "defaultav" ........but I am still blue ..

The console says " no userinfo file found"

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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Thu 2 Feb - 19:58

scuse fab , I was surfing on vrmworlds to look at the games page and I found that one :

http://www.vrmlworlds.com/multiplugins.html

same idea Gil said , I guess you know his trick to switch from contact 5.1 to bs6

http://www.giltheb.net/tool/register/

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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Fri 3 Feb - 7:51

The view own avatar (3rd person view) code isn't put in yet. I've got the code I need, its just more important to fix the other problems first.

As for the teacher's strike, its rather bazare how poorly govenments treat teachers given how important their role in society is.
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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Fri 24 Feb - 13:15

Alain when you have time, could you let me know what the problems are with the french keyboard mapping?

i've checked it myself and I can't see it, I must be going blind again Mr.Red
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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Fri 24 Feb - 14:18

oupsssssssssss ok , scuse , I was lost in my own works ....sorry ...

Ok I will look at ........

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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Wed 1 Mar - 1:32

humm I am not quick ........Sad


but on the way .............



et here up the french too ,

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/854/img52up.gif

I found it here :

http://www.linux-france.org/article/kafkafr/node12.html

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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Fri 3 Mar - 16:08

wowwwwwwwwwwwww fab !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


just got from :

http://turbulence.org/Works/keyboard/

it is very very good ! plzzzzz take a look !


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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Mon 6 Mar - 18:15

ARGGGGHHHHH Mad

I need a list of what keys AREN'T correct in my keyboard mapping. IE if you press the Q key do you get something else instead ?

I no one can provide this then the only option is for me delete the french keyboard mapping and start again. Only I wont be starting again, i'll be deleting it for GOOD.

Holger made a right mess with this keyboard node stuff, i've got 30-40 lines of code for each language over english. No easy way to debug that sort of spagetti code.
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PostSubject: Re: alternative 3D chat which uses Avatar Studio avatars.   Mon 6 Mar - 18:43

http://www.vrmlworlds.com/games/waterslide/world_chat.wrl

Current version fixes huge crash problem and adds "beam into" function. Its like beam to only you end up inside the person and see things from their point of view. I'll turn it into proper beamto later Smile
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