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magnus +200
Number of posts : 367 Registration date : 2006-11-21
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Wed 3 Jan - 17:17 | |
| j'y vois mal il ne manque plus que le son
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peter le cochon +1000
Number of posts : 1032 Localisation : deutschland (sniff) Registration date : 2005-05-28
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Wed 3 Jan - 17:23 | |
| Tout est possible, Magnus : Le code de webcam est juste téléchargeant une nouvelle image jpg chaque fois. Vous pourriez même l'employer comme texture dans le VRML. Avez-vous déjà regardé dans le interieur du votre VRML ? Il est facile de faire, et tout est possible apres. Hmmmm .... attend .... laissez me voir .... | |
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fabricator +200
Number of posts : 227 Localisation : Australia Registration date : 2005-08-28
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Wed 3 Jan - 17:43 | |
| Hahah this reads a lot like the list of bugs I've had at one time or another. I didn't use cookies or anything that would mess up the viewpoint stack, so I can't help with that. I simply insert the chat proto directly into the world itself. I think some of your "Lost chat-text" problem could be a network packet problem, data getting recieved out of order. I had to alter the client quite a lot to cope with these sorts of issues. Another thing to watch out for is double/triple posts, this happens when two or more packets with the same information arrive. All sorts of wacky things occur when you apply lots of people to the same chat, chat corruption is one of those. Good luck with private messaging , I still have to figure that one out myself. Maybe two seperate chat streams, one for incoming chat, one for incoming private messages. - peter le cochon wrote:
Yes there are a couple of important bugs to be fixed in the N3DME( well, a dozen of couples).
Here comes the bug-report : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1) Wrong cookie handling :
The cookie grows too large, and Windows ends up in a blue screen after a few log in.
2) Weird focusing of the chat input box :
sometimes it's getting focus() too much (doesn't let you do anything else but chatting) and other times you need to hit several times at your KBD until you get the first character.
3) Lost chat-text :
Sometimes the text you have sent to chat does never appear back on screen for the author. The other chatters (also the chatlog) get it. But you don't.
4) Avatars don't make gestures nor do they walk :
I did get it to work fine using Fabricator's Avatar Proto instead of the Inline2 extension. But it was just a local test and was lost during a HDD cleanup ... I will redo it.
5) The text-files re. chatlog and users list corrupt from time to time
Better filtering and encoding of chat-entries and a better work for cropping the users list when somebody leaves should solve the problem.
6) Respect the Viewpoint and all other bindings intended by the world-builder of an inlined world.
7) Implementation of missing stuff :
Shared objects and events, private messaging, profile preview, etc ...
It's not an urgent need, and easy to implement, but :
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alain fondateur
Number of posts : 23529 Localisation : Dompierre sur Veyle ,France Registration date : 2005-04-19
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Wed 3 Jan - 17:59 | |
| hello fabricator , it is wonderfull to see you guys working hard with all that I just tried to upload on of my worlds there it works , except the backround about the webcam in vrml , I met "mop" , a nice greek , and tried his script , Peter , for the webcam it is very easy btw http://dumenieu.free.fr/vrml/totry/jackcam.wrl http://dumenieu.free.fr/vrml/totry/jackcam4.wrl he has a topic in 3d art .....gallery .... will tell you the link he does a great work too | |
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alain fondateur
Number of posts : 23529 Localisation : Dompierre sur Veyle ,France Registration date : 2005-04-19
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Wed 3 Jan - 18:01 | |
| here it is :
http://louisedesavoie.forumactif.com/viewtopic.forum?t=1669
3d gallery .......Mixed Reality ..... | |
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peter le cochon +1000
Number of posts : 1032 Localisation : deutschland (sniff) Registration date : 2005-05-28
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Wed 3 Jan - 18:05 | |
| Now the server did die .... lol ! LOL ! awwwww .... - Quote :
Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Please contact the server administrator, [no address given] and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.
More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
Is it possible that diletant coding might mess up a t-online server ? Helppppp !!!! | |
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alain fondateur
Number of posts : 23529 Localisation : Dompierre sur Veyle ,France Registration date : 2005-04-19
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Wed 3 Jan - 18:31 | |
| all is still ok for me Peter and I have worlds in and my avatar too just at at 16h25 | |
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peter le cochon +1000
Number of posts : 1032 Localisation : deutschland (sniff) Registration date : 2005-05-28
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peter le cochon +1000
Number of posts : 1032 Localisation : deutschland (sniff) Registration date : 2005-05-28
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Wed 3 Jan - 19:43 | |
| - fabricator wrote:
- Good luck with private messaging , I still have to figure that one out myself. Maybe two seperate chat streams, one for incoming chat, one for incoming private messages.
Hi Fab. Mi idea re. private messaging is as follows : Within the 'main' stream (general chat and avt positioning) of each chat room, i could include a call - in this case read by all clients - , but which might only induce one single client with the corresponding user or session id to launch the query for the message. The user id, wich is given to each client at log in (sort of session id), should be enough authentication for private chat-messages, if not comming from within the White House. My problem is, that after this last server fall-out ... I'm wondering if my Host-provider should not ask me for some sort of 'coding license', before allowing me to mess arround with server scripting. I would very much appreciate your thaughts about what should every writing/reading server script take into consideration in order to avoid intentioned or even unintentioned mess. A few explanaitions about my php approach to chat : Basically I am using one text file per chat (didn't want to use no DB at all for such frequent requests), where all avt movements and chat text is being recorded (appended). Also some events are being registered here, like people comming and leaving chat (load the avt url and remove it). Each client is requesting a writing (if something was said or if movement occured) and reading (allways) every 2 or 3 seconds. Another text file is being used for 'global' stuff. That means : What worlds are opened and who is online ? Here is also registered the last time that one user id did write. So if it is too long ago, he might be deleted and notificated to the main stream. This file is acessed not as often as the first one (may be every 20 secs or so). The .inc acessing this one will return the command to add or remove users (avts) and worlds to the corresponding chat text file, whenever changes are detected. This one also is being read by the tiny keyhole frames, used for showing chatrooms and chatters, like inside the login form or here in louise's headline today or in Jicer's schizzo.free.fr It could be also used for private message notification or other not urgent stuff ... Well, it is an improvisated stuff, after buying a book and searching the index for 'read and write files' I will apreciate your thaughts. | |
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alain fondateur
Number of posts : 23529 Localisation : Dompierre sur Veyle ,France Registration date : 2005-04-19
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Wed 3 Jan - 21:10 | |
| - peter le cochon wrote:
- fabricator wrote:
- Good luck with private messaging , I still have to figure that one out myself. Maybe two seperate chat streams, one for incoming chat, one for incoming private messages.
Hi Fab.
Mi idea re. private messaging is as follows : Within the 'main' stream (general chat and avt positioning) of each chat room, i could include a call - in this case read by all clients - , but which might only induce one single client with the corresponding user or session id to launch the query for the message. The user id, wich is given to each client at log in (sort of session id), should be enough authentication for private chat-messages, if not comming from within the White House.
My problem is, that after this last server fall-out ... I'm wondering if my Host-provider should not ask me for some sort of 'coding license', before allowing me to mess arround with server scripting.
I would very much appreciate your thaughts about what should every writing/reading server script take into consideration in order to avoid intentioned or even unintentioned mess.
A few explanaitions about my php approach to chat :
Basically I am using one text file per chat (didn't want to use no DB at all for such frequent requests), where all avt movements and chat text is being recorded (appended). Also some events are being registered here, like people comming and leaving chat (load the avt url and remove it). Each client is requesting a writing (if something was said or if movement occured) and reading (allways) every 2 or 3 seconds.
Another text file is being used for 'global' stuff. That means : What worlds are opened and who is online ?
Here is also registered the last time that one user id did write. So if it is too long ago, he might be deleted and notificated to the main stream.
This file is acessed not as often as the first one (may be every 20 secs or so). The .inc acessing this one will return the command to add or remove users (avts) and worlds to the corresponding chat text file, whenever changes are detected.
This one also is being read by the tiny keyhole frames, used for showing chatrooms and chatters, like inside the login form or here in louise's headline today or in Jicer's schizzo.free.fr
It could be also used for private message notification or other not urgent stuff ...
Well, it is an improvisated stuff, after buying a book and searching the index for 'read and write files'
I will apreciate your thaughts.
scuse I copy the questions coz I dont want fabricator miis them but I wanted too to copy that : http://3dchat.3d-check.com http://dumenieu.free.fr/vrml/avatarspublic/zenor.wrl http://dumenieu.free.fr/vrml/totry/jackcam.wrl http://site.voila.fr/isa37/noel/noel.wrl http://3dchat.3d-check.com/index.htm?http%3A//dumenieu.free.fr/vrml/totry/jackcam4.wrl%25%25alain%25%25avts/neutrum.wrl%25%25false http://3dchat.3d-check.com/index.htm?http%3A//site.voila.fr/isa37/noel/noel.wrl%25%25alain%25%25http%3A//dumenieu.free.fr/vrml/avatarspublic/zenor.wrl%25%25false | |
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X +200
Number of posts : 564 Age : 78 Localisation : Canada Registration date : 2005-05-09
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Wed 3 Jan - 21:19 | |
| Will read all your bugs later, Peter. Yes "lost text" did happen to me in your chat. But I had a great time there today. c u X
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isa +2000
Number of posts : 7076 Localisation : INDRE ET LOIRE Registration date : 2005-04-19
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Wed 3 Jan - 21:33 | |
| ah thank... Peter ...for this chat we can see our world ! so good very , i like it and the color are very good ... just the chat is not ok when we typing lol !!!! but good too .... i am happy yep ! merciiiiiiii ! isa | |
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alain fondateur
Number of posts : 23529 Localisation : Dompierre sur Veyle ,France Registration date : 2005-04-19
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Wed 3 Jan - 22:01 | |
| I amHappytoo ! and I do like that page too http://3dchat.3d-check.com/wip.htm | |
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alain fondateur
Number of posts : 23529 Localisation : Dompierre sur Veyle ,France Registration date : 2005-04-19
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Wed 3 Jan - 23:47 | |
| tu as essayé le chat de Peter jacinto ??? | |
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peter le cochon +1000
Number of posts : 1032 Localisation : deutschland (sniff) Registration date : 2005-05-28
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Thu 4 Jan - 4:44 | |
| Lol, Alain ... I could not sleep, thinking about your links a few posts above : Everybode clicking at them, will be thrown into the chat as "Alain" I hope Blaxxun is up soon Gimme some time for bug-fixing. I thank you all for your beta-testing. Who could wish better testers ? Bissoux, Peter | |
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alain fondateur
Number of posts : 23529 Localisation : Dompierre sur Veyle ,France Registration date : 2005-04-19
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Thu 4 Jan - 12:14 | |
| ahahahah true !! now I understand that : LOL and.......you know what , Peter ? the first time I was beta tester it was for ..... Jewel of Indra ......LOL ( and that's true | |
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X +200
Number of posts : 564 Age : 78 Localisation : Canada Registration date : 2005-05-09
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Thu 4 Jan - 12:47 | |
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beta testes?!?
did you get them fixed?
did they become the Jewels of Indra?
I am looking for my glasses...
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jacinto +1000
Number of posts : 1177 Registration date : 2006-02-21
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jacinto +1000
Number of posts : 1177 Registration date : 2006-02-21
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Thu 4 Jan - 13:03 | |
| - Quote :
- tu as essayé le chat de Peter jacinto ???
le chat de peter ca fait plus d un an qu il es sur mon site !! et en page d acceuil !! Reveille toi Alain | |
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magnus +200
Number of posts : 367 Registration date : 2006-11-21
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Fri 5 Jan - 18:52 | |
| comment on fait je n'arrive pas | |
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alain fondateur
Number of posts : 23529 Localisation : Dompierre sur Veyle ,France Registration date : 2005-04-19
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Fri 5 Jan - 19:02 | |
| http://3dchat.3d-check.com/index.htm?http://perso.numericable.fr/jescarre/farwest.wrl%25%25gargo%25%25avts/neutrum.wrl%25%25false
j'ai mis ton nom LOL | |
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magnus +200
Number of posts : 367 Registration date : 2006-11-21
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Fri 5 Jan - 19:04 | |
| j'y vois rien c'est cortona qui prend le dessus | |
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alain fondateur
Number of posts : 23529 Localisation : Dompierre sur Veyle ,France Registration date : 2005-04-19
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Fri 5 Jan - 19:24 | |
| je t'ai vu passer on a bien discuté avec fabricator dans ton farwest c'est dur de typer mais on y arrive quand même Peter is a hero bon tu as comme isa , lol Magnus , ça saute d'un viewer à l'autre elle , elle a le flux player en plus ....pfffff lol bon , ya un truc de youpien que j'avais conseillé pour changer de viewer , peut etre ça te forcera à avoir toujours blaxxun quans tu rentres chez Peter , je sais pas ... tu sais où est ce bazar dans le bazar de Louise ?? dans "3d ..gallery je pesne" humm ?? | |
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alain fondateur
Number of posts : 23529 Localisation : Dompierre sur Veyle ,France Registration date : 2005-04-19
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Fri 5 Jan - 19:26 | |
| wowwwwwwwwwwww LOL
pour une fois le truc de recherche trouve !!!
ahaha
http://louisedesavoie.forumactif.com/search.forum?search_keywords=viewer&show_results=topics
c'est la 2eme ligne je pense | |
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alain fondateur
Number of posts : 23529 Localisation : Dompierre sur Veyle ,France Registration date : 2005-04-19
| Subject: Re: Pig's World(s) and other confusing stuff Fri 5 Jan - 19:27 | |
| vi c ça | |
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