Seamless

ah yes , was not sure that the beast was from the robot , I didn't took the time to re check ...

bad memory ...
humm wait will check XP first

No worries Alain, both are "robots" and both are "demos" for seamless so its easy to confuse the 2. You dont see the help robot, only what it does with the mouse and keyboard, and who knows, it might be a hoppy robot if only you could see it

well I just tried Asheanor's XP puter : the demo av robot is perfect !!



( indeed I have a dirty puter

This is both good news and bad news
I doubt it is your computer at fault Alain, its probably because the seamless robot is not compatible with millennium. The reason why the robot demos are more troubled by different operating systems is because the robot is specifically using the system's input, the mouse and keyboard and apparently they are all a little different (win98, millennium and XP) in how they behave.
The robot only worked in XP properly until I fixed a few bugs for win98. I am afraid the real bad news is I don't have widows millennium to test out what is the problem. I could probably debug this with trial and error tests written for you to try out on your computer but this will take an unknown number of trial tests before I find the cause this way. If it is just the robot that is the problem and if you can borrow Asheanor's XP puter for the robot demos I hope it will not a real big problem but I am willing to write some tests if anyone much needs the robot to work on an older operating system besides win98.
Thanks for your feedback Alain, I now know something new I did not before.

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyme !!!!!!!!!

I just downloaded seamless at school and !!!!!

the robot works well !!!!!!


so don't worry , it is also a millenieum here ...

I guess that my puter at home is just too much dirty ....

pffffff

je suis hors sujet , mais je megare dans la music la: et j ai pas resister a vous le faire partager...bon vous etes pas obliger d aimer
http://eol.free.fr/musicjc/universa.mp3
--et--
http://eol.free.fr/musicjc/universb.mp3
et bientot je continue d autre...

tu connais kEv , jacinto ???

http://louisedesavoie.forumactif.com/viewtopic.forum?p=45760#45760

jicer

http://louisedesavoie.forumactif.com/viewtopic.forum?p=45764#45764

isa

Hi Isa Jacinto and Alain
great news Alain however I don't understand why it should be your fault the robot does not work on your computer. perhaps the keyboard is set up differently or something like that.

Please see my ideas for Bezier or Spline type curves being added to seamless for lathes, bends etc:

http://www.seamless3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=513#513

hello Thyme )))

i see on your forum Bézier what is that lol ))) for make curve !!!

but i am affraid lol thyme when i see that i cry help !!! not for me it's complicated

in France we said this expression when we are affraid by a thing

"je prends mes jambes a mon cou "

"I take my legs amon neck and I leave "




Lilly make nice pictures:) with that?

so Thyme work well , good work ...

and good days all

isa

look isa
http://www.seamless3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=519#519

vi

yes the curves ! perfect for buildt that with Bezier

!!!!! le monde tourne .....

isa

I recieved ( today !!)
an invitation to visit ah exhibition of 2 artists working with mathematics :

Sylvie Pic :

http://www.documentsdartistes.org/artistes/pic/repro.html

ex




and

Pierre Gallais

http://carted.free.fr/fixes/j157/15818.htm

ex :

using curves to have a model of feminin chest

Quote :

GEOMETRIE DES SURFACES
Etude des surfaces SEINPATHIQUES

La GEODESIQUE est la courbe qui definit le plus court chemin entre deux points sur une surface. La Geodesique etend aux surfaces ce que la Droite est au plan ... nous menageant quelques surprises.

Pierre GALLAIS
institut de Mathologie

I can't translate "seinpathique" , Thyme , sorry .....

word joke

sympathique

sein .....pathique

tres tres bien
... bon je suis dans le fumeux de la musique... c est comme dirait l autre mon violon d'Ingre...du coup ca me donne l'inpression, d'etre complement aveugle.(si je ne le suis pas vraiment)

ALAIN A QUAND LA TRADUCTION ?

MERCI CA FAIT UN AN QU ON ATTENDS !

Dsl les lecteurs, mais si on ecrit pas, alain, est sourd , vous l avez deviné , non ?

@peluche

LOOOOOLLLLLLLL il est fou ! ahahahhahaha

))))))

mais la traduc de quoi ???????????????????????? !!!!!!!!

for isa :

http://www.seamless3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=529&sid=263500bb6bd70ff284ee39ac9d64bae8#529

( and may be for marco ???????????? I don't know LOL

Hi Isa, Alain, Jacinto and marco
Briliant Job Isa !!!!! as I said in my reply at my forum

http://www.seamless3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=537#537

a 1000 thanks to you!!!

I am currently very busy working on adding a Bezier lathe for seamless which I feel is going to be the next best thing since sliced bread I will write more soon about it

Dear Isa

Quote :

i see on your forum Bézier what is that lol ))) for make curve !!!

but i am affraid lol thyme when i see that i cry help !!! not for me it's complicated

Yes they are for making curves Isa but you do not have to understand the mathematics for a Bezier curve to use one. The main reason I wanted to add a Bezier curve to Seamless is because they are very intuitive to use. You will be able to see what I mean by "very intuitive to use" for your self when I have the next version of seamless ready and an example of a Bezier lathe for it. All you have to do is drag the control points and the shape will change in such a way anyone will instantly know how to control the shape.
The interface for a Bezier lathe is so intuitive I even wonder if its easier for a beginner than creating a sphere, cylinder or cone Bezier curves are very popular, not only for 3d programs but many popular paint programs use them too (often the word spline or curve is used instead of the specific Bezier spline/curve type)

Quote :

in France we said this expression when we are afraid by a thing

"je prends mes jambes a mon cou "

"I take my legs amon neck and I leave "

but the engineer Pierre Bézier was French so they can not be something to be afraid of

As I said there will be no need to understand the mathematics to use a Bezier curve for seamless but even the concept for the mathematics is beautifully simple.

I am far from being a great mathematician but this animated image:



makes it very easy for even me to be able to grasp the concept for the maths behind a Bezier curve, at least if I wrote my own formula from scratch using simple line mathematics. To understand the concept for this image, imagine 2 trains are running along the grey lines. One train is running from point 0 to point 1 and the other train is running from point 1 to point 2.
Imagine a green elastic string stretching between the 2 trains.
Imagine a man running along this elastic string holding down to the ground a red paint brush while he runs from one train to the other. The trail of paint he leaves on the ground will mark a Bezier curve.

There, not something to be afraid of and leave?

kind wishes

PS
image from:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bezier_curve

thank you Thyme for your answer:)
two years that I am on blaxxun and I start interresting me has buildlol it is time:)
( http://site.voila.fr/isa37/moi4.wrl )

i use a software of 3d,and i see though all is too square and what I missed in first the light! and curves!
i said alain help !!how i make light and curves my first question about 3d

I cannot still make the curves on flow in this moment I learn and I discover!! share of the rounds has which one cuts into two...: (

Bézier yes I saw well that it was necessary to make trainer... practical... but the figures me one a little frightened:)

it is well to discover other software which bring us advisability to work. thank you

i try seamless too on my computer

good days or night ....

isa

hello Thyme ......
will tease you about a stupid thing

Quote :

Hello,

You are receiving this email because you are watching the topic, "etcetc
.........
Thanks, The Management

you have a place as admin to change this stupid

Quote :

Thanks, The Management

LOL

may be you have more important to do LOL

Hi Isa and Alain and All friends of Louise

Thanks for sharing your first wrl you made with us Isa It is very pleasing to see you have made something 3d congratulations!

Isa wrote:

Quote :

i try seamless too on my computer

there is no better time to try seamless now my Bèzier Lathe build node is ready for version 2.111 !!!!

all you have to do is drag the green and cyan control dots:




http://www.seamless3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=72


Alain wrote:

Quote :

you have a place as admin to change this stupid

Sorry Alain yes it's not the most artistic of lines. I will try to think of something more witty soon as I have had a chance to plant some early (or now mid) spring sweet corn and tomatoes and after I have filled in my tax forms
Afraid these are the times we live in, where we let computers speak dry words for us for lack of time to write our own, and why? because the computers take all our time!!! lol sorry no I love computers and the internet

Alain wrote earlier:

Quote :

using curves to have a model of feminin chest

So far I have only used circular and elliptical curves for this, I will try out Bèzier curves for this soon

Interesting mathematical art Alain, however I have to say the mathematical formula went horribly wrong for these breasts:




Thanks, The Management

ahahahha Thyme it is wonderful to see you in such a funny mind ...
I just downloaded the last seamless from your topic there ....

will try and tell ....

oupsss "TRY AND TELL" ....you should make a banner with that LOL

( if it is a bit english )

no copyrights from me LOL


réédit :



http://www.seamless3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=575#575

Hi Alain, Isa and All
the new version is finally ready:

http://www.seamless3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=91

Hope this robot might work better on your computer Alain, however I have found when ram gets short this can upset it's timing but this should not prevent it from being useable. The robot can resume work from any operation.
Please Isa take a look at the demo robot, it shows how to make an av using Bezier lathes and should be as entertaining as it is informative
I have been on the go all day working to get this version ready in time for the weekend and now its 3:50 AM, I hope progress will be smoother after this day but right now I just got to close my eyes and sleep!

same prob , Thyme , it asks me to save the smls , and I forgot how waht we ahe said about that prob

but dont worry I will get it on Asheanor's puter ......

happy that you had time to finish that ( after potatoes etc