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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyMon 28 Aug - 20:11

very very nice car!!!! havent looked yet, but do you have a tutorial on how to make that car? What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyMon 28 Aug - 20:18

LOL mcFly try first the tutorial for joining the vertices , I tried it quickly but no succes for the moment , Thyme

But thanx !! Smile

and pity these stupid Time zones , always we cross Smile

How could you live in Australia !! LOL

( I joke )

well was trying the this " cclathe " thing .......Smile

with coord Interpolator in vrmlpad

http://dumenieu.free.fr/louiseforum/seamcoordfleur.wrl

pssss Good that you upload things in your gallery , Thyme , indeed all these objects are seamless -like

and THAT IS GOOD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Smile)))))
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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyTue 29 Aug - 17:35

still trying the CCLathe

( but will try too the morpher thing in seamless , for the moment I use vrmlpad

after getting 2 shapes .....

http://dumenieu.free.fr/louiseforum/seamcoordfleurcri0.wrl



http://dumenieu.free.fr/louiseforum/serpentfeurcri0.wrl

I still try to do these small things more quickly than you could answer LOOL , Thyme Smile

( sound in !! LOL )
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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyWed 30 Aug - 1:17

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very very nice car!!!! havent looked yet, but do you have a tutorial on how to make that car?

hi mcfly Smile sorry, so far all of the tutorials I have written focus on technique and so I have always tried to keep them as simple as possible. The art work so far has been left to the user however I have thought though perhaps it would be good in the future to have more artistic looking examples to inspire others. As a child I use to much enjoy gluing plastic aeroplane models together and also balsa ones and I much enjoyed assembling Lego too. I see no reason why the same sort of thing cant be done for seamless too Smile
Bumpy would have used seamless build nodes including BranchJoin nodes to get this very smooth machine look.
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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyWed 30 Aug - 1:59

Some great animated CCLathe life-forms Alain Smile are they plant or animal? lol
I see you are using blaxxun's dynamic shadows too. I must add shadows like this for seamless in the future, I have seen examples of dynamic shadows in the direct X SDK since 1998! but have not had a chance to look at the code for how this is done for direct x or bxx. You will have to show me how you do it some day Alain because I know you have been doing this for years now Smile
The join close vertices tutorial should be really simple Alain. perhaps I have something silly that's misleading or a typo or something, so please let me know if it makes sense or not soon as you have a chance to look at it properly, it really should be dead simple to do.
I have updated my gallery page some more. It shows jokar's jester av she designed:

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and her dog I made the next year:

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This dog was the first thing I made like this using a GUI to edit build nodes, before this time I edited build functions using text C++ files (jokars's jester av was created 100% using only C++ files). Things are now coming full circle where both build nodes and C++ instructions can be edited using seamless's GUI Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyWed 30 Aug - 10:42

I retried , using your seamless file , Thyme , but it still makes nothing Sad



oopsssssssssss !! reedit !!!

I reretried ........and it works !

I was changing the position before using the join close button ,
I see that we have not to do that !!

now it is ok ! Thanxxxxxxxxxxxx
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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyWed 30 Aug - 12:07

Smile Thyme

i like the woman !she is funny also dimensioned same the toy for me it's personnal ,and the dog too Smile you add the car with lol nice Smile funny

it is original one does not see of it like everywhere lol , good ..

good days all people on Louise Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyWed 30 Aug - 12:58

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it is original one does not see of it like everywhere

seamless3d makes things we don't see anywhere , smooths objetcs etc , it One of the reasons why it is great !
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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyWed 30 Aug - 13:04

wowwwwwwwww LOOOOOOOLLLL Thyme !!!!!

I am stupid !!!!

I re re re tried the join thing , with just 2 cylinders , and now I understand that they need to be close together before using the join button !!!!!!

Just that !!!!!!

reason why I didn't succeed before !

Ok I git it !!!!!!

scuse to be so slow LOL Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyWed 30 Aug - 23:58

hello world !
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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyThu 31 Aug - 0:08

wowwwwww jacinto !!!!! Smile)))))))
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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyThu 31 Aug - 0:10

re wowwwwwwwwwww !!!!

Look , Thyme :

http://louisedesavoie.forumactif.com/profile.forum?mode=viewprofile&u=374

I "got" him on blaxxun yesterday !!

ahhha good !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyThu 31 Aug - 10:47

Hi Isa Smile, Alain Smile, and Jacinto Smile
Thanks for your comments Isa, they were a joy to read Very Happy and Alain's too Very Happy
When I render models with Pov-Ray, it often seems to evoke feelings from my childhood and makes me think of toys I have had or haven't had Smile Wallace and Gromet often does much the same for me, stirring simular childhood feelings, even though I never saw Wallace and Gromet as a child Smile

Glad you found the tutorial made sense in the end Alain, don't worry about misunderstanding it initially, I often get the wrong end of the stick when the simplest of things are explained to me Smile it is not in French too so it's a little more complicated for you I understand, however I wonder if the words distract from the images to get the message across, even for people who speak English as their first language. Also it is important to note, thyme is always needed to digest new things, even when they are dead simple.

Great news about Marlboro! Smile I wonder if he has been receiving any of my seamless updates I post out. I hope I still have his current email address.
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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyThu 31 Aug - 10:56

Today I re-made an old blaxxun friend's avatar I made originally back for her back in 2000.
I have added a povray rendering of it to my gallery

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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyThu 31 Aug - 12:52

I thought since ages that you have , Thyme , the original software to build your original shapes with your original ideas and mind ....

It is evident with that
http://www.seamless3d.com/gallery/jane5w.png

as it is evident with all you do ,

scuse to say it and don't answer ..LOL

But it is great , and not many ppl have all that ( together ) ...

........
2 - By mistake I ouputed one thing in *.pov ..... how do you make an image with that ???
witch soft need to be used ??

3 - I played again with the CCLathe
http://dumenieu.free.fr/louiseforum/fleurserpentpieuvre.wrl

4..
ooopssss I forgot to tell , about the shadows , that I found a way from qbert , years ago ,
( it was made with a draw group :
http://dumenieu.free.fr/vrml/avatarspublic/zenorshadow2.wrl
)

but , here ,with the flowers/snakes etc , it is just a stupid trick :

DEF shadow Transform { scale 1 .00001 1
children [ Shape {
appearance Appearance {
material Material {
diffuseColor 0.2 0.2 0.1}}
geometry IndexedFaceSet {
coord USE c0141e2b0

etc etc with the same coordIndex
.......
so it is "animated" as the referent is ....

4....yesss I am very happy if marboro has a bit time to come here ...
I remember he was one of the guys who tried seamless
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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyThu 31 Aug - 13:07

Alain you can download povray from:

http://www.povray.org

and its free Smile

Seamless should prompt to open the pov file after you press output.

You want to add a floor and play with the light position to get interesting effects.
Also I made seamless so that the ColorEffect and/or TextureEffect nodes get output to make them easy to edit in povray.
You can add Effect nodes to any part to change a different part's appearance, for example make the eyes more shiny.
Its makes life easier to name the Effect nodes in seamless so that you can output the geometry files (.inc) with references to the same names in the pov file at a later stage. To prevent Seamless overwriting the pov file you are editing changing the pov file name. It will work like this fine if it references the inc files with the same names for the effect nodes. I hand Edit the pov file to change the camera and lighting and the effect.
Gosh I need to write a tutorial for povray for seamless! Smile
Its one of the first 3d programs I ever played with and I still think its great! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyThu 31 Aug - 13:30

I forgot to mention you must click on the "run" button in povray.
You should then see Pov-Ray ray trace the file. The resulting image will be by default a bmp file which will be located in the same folder as the povray file.
The size of the image generated by povray can be changed from the drop down menu in povray to the far left.
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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyThu 31 Aug - 14:26

LOOOL

my first render !!!

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I never used povray before !!

will look at , thanx very much , Thyme Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyThu 31 Aug - 21:10

Great to see Alain Smile I think you will continue to find this program something you will want to use again and again. Did you make this twirl? or is it a pov ray example? you can make twirls using a CCLathe and a CCBend but I have never written a tutorial yet showing how.
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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyThu 31 Aug - 23:12

for the moment I output several cclathe

and use coord interp in vrmlpad

http://dumenieu.free.fr/louiseforum/fleurserpentpieuvredanse.wrl


but I will try to get your morpher thing ...............


indeed I begin school tomorrow LOl arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

will have a bit les time

.....

in pvray I cant get the shadow , but will look at later ,
don't know if I must search in povray or in the seamless scene , to have that shadow ....
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Hi Jacinto
I still do not understand what you mean by you do not see the bones!!!!!!. They are visible in seamless3d in the form of a scene tree as well as the actual geometry.

bonjour, excusez mon entrée dans la discution abrupte, mais j ai survolé le fil de la discution et bon tout a fait volontairement je reponds là ou je me suis stoppé avant hollidays Smile

voici un os :
http://spain.free.fr/vrml/tt.wrl

by Anne Dubuisson

je me demande si vous pouvez me conseiller :
(sais très hors sujet)
je veux savoir si la mise en oeuvre d'un serveur blaxxun est complexe,
car je voulais presenter à la bibliothèque de mon quartier pour des groupes d'enfants "le parking" avec le systeme informatique de la bibliothèque, et je cherche a leur presenter quelque chose pour 5 utilisateurs sans objet partagé avec un chat simple. voilà mais je ne sais pas trop quel est la meilleure solution, ni comment concrétiser celà.
bref je trouve que ce serait une bonne idée de voir les enfants de ce quartier defavorisé et de pouvoir confronter leur réalité du parking avec le modele virtuel.

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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyFri 1 Sep - 17:22

Hi Alain Smile
I much like this blue moody world, looks much like a scene for some science fiction movie Smile

I am also delighted to find it was a CCBend node after all that you used to make the spiral type shapes Smile

We do not have to do anything to make shadows work for povray because shadows are created by povray automatically. However if there is no floor or any objects to cast a shadow onto, we wont see a shadow, same as in the real world.

This is from my new tutorial for seamless I have just written:

Taking a Pov-Ray Screen Shot

I explain how you can add a floor directly to the pov file and other things related.

Sorry to hear about you having to go back to school already, good things never seem to last Sad but its Saturday here so this can only be for Friday your time then you are back into the weekend right? Smile
The same weekend we will be having the pirate party Very Happy
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I read you at school ( it means that the puter here still works - after being 2 months lazzy LOL )
so , yes I will test when back home on week end , but I saw that you add the floor on Pov Ray ! I added it on the seamless scen !
ahahah

ok thanx I will play with that , I like these shadows Smile

great thanx for the tuto / help , Thyme
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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyFri 1 Sep - 18:01

coucou jacinto , c'était bien ? Smile


mais je comprend pas ta question :

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je veux savoir si la mise en oeuvre d'un serveur blaxxun est complexe,
..... et je cherche a leur presenter quelque chose pour 5 utilisateurs sans objet partagé avec un chat simple.

ya pas de problème à installer blaxxun sur un ordi
( si tu as l'accord du bibliothecaire )

hummm j'ai pas dû comprendre la question Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Seamless   Seamless - Page 8 EmptyFri 1 Sep - 19:50

oui tu nas pas compris Smile
un systeme autonome de chat avec 3d tu vois?
pour intranet ou internet , je crois que j ai vus cela chez fabricator? non?
ou peter tu voi avec un modele 3d avec le chat tu vois?
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