Seamless

on my puter , Thyme ,

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for me , the bendy always crashed

I meant , if I jut open seamless and slect the white node then clik the bendy ,
all crashes / closes

Alain and Isa you are both 100% right, it was the BendyLathe, not what I had suspected sorry. At least it had nothing to do with the ModelMorpher and this bug was very simple to fix and it is ok to use 2 (and hopefully any number of) parts
2.131 is ready for download (French and English). This version has the bug fixed which would cause 2.130 to not be able to open a file saved containing a BendyLathe.
There was nothing wrong with how the file was saved just 2.130 was unable to initialize the node after loading a file. This version will be able to open any such file.
Many thanks to Isa for her speedy report of this bug.

In addition to this important bug fix, 2.131 has some of the demos modified for the new features.
The Textured Demo now uses a NurbsLathe and the 2 demos Beeline to Animation and Bring a Static Model to Life now use the part's pivotPoint field instead of using CenterJoint nodes. These 3 demos are significantly simplified but now I need to update the tutorials.

Alain wrote:

I meant , if I jut open seamless and slect the white node then clik the bendy ,
all crashes / closes

O this sounds even worse Alain. For me the BendyLathe is fine until after I save and try to reopen. Hopefully the bug is related to what I have fixed so please test the new version Alain.

I am at school and I downloaded the last seamless and I made
a "shakira" with the bendy ,
all that in less than 1 mn LOL

)

so bravo alain ( and Thyme heheh )

when i made out put i have that !! .......... hummmm what is wrong in my job please .... this is my flower for the day of the woman tomorow
and i work tomorrow not normal for this day





good day see you soon

Bravo for your help Alain both here and on the Seamless3d forum

Nice flower Isa, I don't know why Seamless outputs it like this for VRML

Please send me the smls file so I can see what the problem is so that I can fix it.
Check you send the .smls file and not the smls.bak or the smls.old please.

Have you tried your Shakira file in the new 2.131 ? it should work now.

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I am at school and I downloaded the last seamless and I made
a "shakira" with the bendy ,
all that in less than 1 mn LOL

it meant that it was working well , yesss

but when at home I took time to do that

http://dumenieu.free.fr/louizeforum/seamless/fleurshakira.wrl


with a few vrmlpad to finish

well , isa ,

from your "fleur.smls" ....

by deleting step by step pieces from the tree ,
puis/ then saving and outputing ,

I got the pieces in wrl and put them together in vrmplpad

http://dumenieu.free.fr/louizeforum/seamless/refleurisa.wrl

but it is not easy to re do the right translation , now !
( and it doenst enter in spazz correctly )

so ......

if you re try from zero .....

I wonder/ je me demande if you could not do as that :




Thyme will tell that it is no the right way , LOL ,
but if that way works ...

at the end I just added a color to the first node , in vrmlpad , coz it had none


so

ex

http://dumenieu.free.fr/louizeforum/seamless/refleurisa2.wrl

btw a question remaining is

we forget how to copy a part to have mutiples same objetcs

( as USE in vrmlpad )

sorry to forget Thyme

I must write a tutorial on this subject Alain (I did try something like this once but is now out of date).
The scene tree is designed with a number of basic windows explorer concepts if you think of the nodes as files.
When you drag a node to a new location it "moves" the node (same as moving a file to a different folder)
When you drag a node to a new location while holding down the control key, it makes a "copy" of the node (same as in windows when you drag a file with control held down)
When you drag a node to a new location while holding down the Alt key, it makes a "reference" of the node (same as in windows when you drag a file with Alt held down but in windows it is usually called a "short cut" which is a reference) A reference in VRML is a USE.
It's a great feeling when the universe feels a little smaller and within grasp? but this feeling is always short lived only to be replaced with a feeling that the universe is much bigger than once thought and well out of the grasp of any human brain

I saw your morphing flower, looks great Sorry I am slow getting back to the other problems you and Isa have raised, I am also trying to see what is wrong with my forum as I can not log in as the administrator arrrg but I now know about phpMyAdmin just I don't know how to use it LOL

ah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

okkkkkkkkkkkk

I am Ok with the copy/ ctrl

it works well

but lost with the alt / referance ,

Im am wrong with it ......



but thanx ..... show some printscreen when time , for the alt stuff ,
plz ,

but thanx and scuse

I begin to understand the use thing

http://www.seamless3d.com/tut/build_av/index.html

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To add a reference from our CylinderBuild node to our pelvis part, hold down the ALT key and drag from the right of the pelvis's icon to the right of the CylinderBuild node's icon and release the mouse button first before releasing the ALT key:

from mathieu

http://pagesperso-orange.fr/Matthieu/Seamless3d/Avatar_Seamless_index.html

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Ainsi, pour ajouter la référence du cylindre constructeur à la partie Pelvis (tronc) maintenez enfoncée la clé ALT puis cliquez-tirez depuis la droite de l'icône Pelvis jusqu'à la droite de l'icône du cylindre constructeur, puis relâchez le bouton de la souris avant de relâcher la clé ALT:

So I made that



http://dumenieu.free.fr/louizeforum/seamless/fleuruse.wrl

http://dumenieu.free.fr/louizeforum/seamless/fleuruse.smls

It seems not Ok to add a BezierLatheBuild to a buildGroup
but it works with spheres etc


after that I converted some nodes ,
and I had some probs ,
but I think that I am on a better way with "USE" , ALT key !

well ......

I see you figured out how to reference / USE a node Alain using the build an av tut (which I had forgotten explains this sorry) . This tut explains the correct way to reference manually Alain but unfortunaly when I rewrite this tut (which I hope to do soon) it will no longer explain how to reference manually because this will be done automatically using the buttons from the horizontal bar (select part and press NurbsLathe) So I will need to write a tutorial that also explains how to reference nodes because this is a needed skill if you want to advance on to more advanced tasks like you are

I did write this more recent tut some time last year for Lilly which also shows how to reference:

http://www.seamless3d.com/tut/copy_inside/index.html

and the same tut using menus instead of drag and drop which may be easier if you don't understand how to drag a node as a child, as a sibling or as a replacement of a node but I much prefer the drag and drop method unless I need to scroll the scene tree a long way because it is much faster and once you know how its less taxing on the intellect:

http://www.seamless3d.com/tut/copy_inside/menus.html


You probably already know this Alain but for others who don't, If you look at the seamless code in a text editor (like VrmlPad) you will see referenced nodes (USE) are coded exactly the same as VRML.

ok thanx

we are still working on , isa and I ,

she got that

http://smurfette.neuf.fr/seamless/fleur8.wrl

and she was too late ( before going to work )
to post ..

so I do ....

Looks Appealing Alain and very original

hum I am more used now to use the shortcuts
for USEs and copies

( and Thanx Thyme )
but I am not sure if I use the right way because
that one , for isntance

http://dumenieu.free.fr/louizeforum/seamless/fleuruseandcopies.wrl

is 102 ko


humm

btw semaless3d is very original



ps my UndoCache is .... 17 MO

2 947 files ))

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

)

looll 2947 ...

3383 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mdr

so i am lost in my flowers but i see many thing today so good ..

http://smurfette.neuf.fr/seamless/fleur9.wrl

hop good night ...

LOL isa add

loop TRUE play TRUE

in

Code:

DEF t02659a90 PAnim{ 
}

in vrmlpad , and you will see !!

btw humm it is 447 ko

mais on va y arriiiiiiiiiiiver !


ps

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2.131 has an important bug fixed that would prevent Seamless3d from being
able to open a file containing a BenndyLathe.

If you are unsure what version you have check the title bar, the version
number is displayed there.

regarde bien si tu as la 2.131 , isa ......

vivi j'ai la bonne version

vi on peut animer dans le pad ben pas fait exprés ....looolll

http://dumenieu.free.fr/louizeforum/seamless/fleur5.wrl


quand je peux pas voir la color

je save

puis je fais un autre truc en couleur

je le save

et au pad je copy

Code:

color Color{
color [.11 .etc....................]
}

du second sur le premier ...

Very nice Alain this:
http://dumenieu.free.fr/louizeforum/seamless/fleuruseandcopies.wrl

Alain wrote:

but I am not sure if I use the right way because
that one , for isntance

It is seamless that is at fault here Alain Sorry not you.
When you reference a Seamless node it behaves as a referenced node inside Seamless3d but it does not output as a referenced node like the other nodes because it is not so simple to do (it needs to be processed a lot) but I will make it so that a Seamless node does output as a USE like it should. If its very easy to do I will do this for the next version but if not it will happen when the time is right

PS I have found recently the undo function (Control Z) works more reliably if I keep the undoCache clean. It seems some cache files get written as read only files and so this causes problems. I have not had the time to check why it saves some files as read only yet but I dare say its a simple to fix.

Beautiful shapes Isa:

http://smurfette.neuf.fr/seamless/fleur9.wrl

It would be a crime to distract from the lovely shading of these 3d shapes by using some loud tacky texture pattern

I know Isa is using 2.131 because it says so in the fleur.smls file she recently sent me but when I open this file the flower looks a mess inside seamless's 3d window I am sure it is not meant to look like this.

yes thyme I have the 2.131 that you gave me for the bonds .. thank

I am a little ( very) bordelic on my computer
... thus alain said to me to save my work by putting a new number fleur9.smls fleur10.smls. etc.... good professor lol... so now i must send you not empty link

I find yourself there better

nono isa , he doenst get an

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empty

one ( as you send me days ago )
but a messed up one ....toute mélangée ....

but I think could stop to look at any other , Thyme ,
isa knows better how to do now ,
and I am making some sort of short tutos ...

so we will succeed better ...